Ep 06: Anisha Nandi

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In this episode of Charge the Wave, we welcome guest Anisha Nandi, CEO and Co-Founder of Verbate.io, an all-in-one platform that helps Employee Experience leaders manage and measure their communities.

Tune in to this episode as Anisha shares insights into:

• How and why she co-founded Verbate
• The importance of building a network early in your career 
• A common denominator she’s observed with the most successful people she has met thus far
• How she manages her mental health daily
• What’s next for Verbate

About Anisha Nandi 

Anisha spent a decade building digital newsrooms with resilient cultures at the center. As a Trinidadian-Indian woman born in England and raised in NY, she knows the power of being able to create spaces for your whole self.

Learn more about Anisha Nandi:  

Visit Anisha’s business website: https://www.verbate.io/  

Connect with Anisha on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anisha-nandi/ 

Follow Verbate on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/verbate-io/

Read the full transcript of this episode:

TAI ( 00:02:27): Welcome. Welcome everybody. Today. Our guest is Anisha Nandi. Before we jump right in  Anisha, would you like to open the show with a quick intro and some background?

ANISHA ( 00:02:38): Sure, happy to. Thanks for having me. I’m Anisha. I am the CEO and Co-founder of Verbate. Verbate is an ERG management platform. So we help employee communities like ERGs, affinity groups and, and all sorts of employee communities better manage and measure the impact that they’re having on, on the organization that they work within. A little bit of background on me. Before founding Verbate, I was a journalist for about 10 years really involved in building digital newsrooms from 0 to 1. And so thinking deeply about not only pro product production and logistics, but also, you know, the human side of things, what makes workplaces go around, which led me to founding Verbate.

TAI ( 00:03:16): That’s great. Thank you for that. Congrats on all your success with  Verbate thus far, which we’ll get to for sure. But I wanted to start with where it all began. Where did you grow up? And how would you describe it?

ANISHA ( 00:03:29): Yeah, for sure. So I’ll give you my background in a nutshell, which I always love to do because I’m extremely passionate about, you know, people’s identities and how they carry around those identities with them. And so personally, I’m Trinidadian and India and my mom’s Trinidadian, my dad’s Indian, I was actually born in England and I grew up in New York. And so I like to say I carry a lot of identities around with me. But I have a soft spot for New York and spent a good amount of time in Detroit as well. Went to the University of Michigan.

TAI ( 00:03:57): Any siblings?

ANISHA ( 00:03:59): I do, I have a brother. He is super close to me. We are both in the startup world as well. So doing this crazy thing together.

TAI ( 00:04:06): Ok, and is he an older brother or younger brother? 

ANISHA ( 00:04:09) Yeah, he’s older. 

TAI ( 00:04:12) Ok. Great. Do you recall a unique or interesting challenge or experience from your childhood that you’d like to share?

ANISHA ( 00:04:21): Hm, you know, I think, I think just the nature of my parents and my family moving around a good bit and just figuring out how to weave those identities together has always been something that I, I would say growing up. Even if I didn’t realize it, I was always figuring it out. I was figuring out who I was in different rooms and, and trying to figure out, you know, maybe pattern matching a little bit too much trying to figure out how to fit in. And the older I got, the more that I realized the secret is just to actually embrace all of that intersectionality and, and bring it all together. And that’s really when it started to click for me.

TAI ( 00:04:56): You certainly sound like a globetrotter, someone who’s hopscotched around the world on your voyage. Did you run into any particular meaningful role models that you’d like to give a shout out to today?

ANISHA ( 00:05:10): You know, it’s funny you bring up my family right away. They’re really my sources of inspiration. Always my older brother, my parents, you know, coming from an immigrant family, It’s so ingrained in you to, to look around you and say these are the people where my values and my inspiration really comes from so, my first role models and my role models forever are probably gonna be those three people.

TAI ( 00:05:30): How did you choose the University of Michigan to attend, and anything you loved about it or have any regrets from your school days?

ANISHA ( 00:05:39): Yeah. I mean, I love the University of Michigan. I can talk about it all day long. Big Wolverine here. I, you know, I visited a ton of colleges and at the time I just, I, I didn’t really know what I wanted to do. I knew that I loved writing. I knew that I had this passion for the different identities like we’ve talked about that we carry around. But I didn’t know what that would really manifest into in terms of a career. And so I really wanted to go somewhere that gave me the maximum optionality, right, somewhere that I could explore all the different avenues and the University of Michigan was perfect for that. They have so many different programs, so many great people. And so that’s really what landed me there. And I, you know, I met my co-founder there. I started my journalism career there. I worked at the NBC station. I mean, I had so many incredible experiences and that’s also where I, I really earned a great love and appreciation for the city of Detroit. So that’s also my other city that I rep besides New York.

TAI ( 00:06:34): And I went to a couple of schools , just west of you Michigan State and Chicago. How did you like Ann Arbor?

ANISHA ( 00:06:40): Yeah, absolutely. I mean, Ann Arbor is the best. It’s so much fun and such a beautiful town. The older I get, the more I realize what a perfect little bubble that town is.

TAI ( 00:06:49): And then were you at WDIV? Yeah. Ok. So I grew up on 8.5 miles. So I think I was at your media market in terms of where you were? That. That is really neat. It sounds like a, a few times.

ANISHA ( 00:07:04): It was a job. My job is essentially just driving around to all the different metro Detroit City. you know, towns and talking about the revitalization of Detroit. And so I really learned a ton about how amazing that area is.

TAI ( 00:07:17): And after school, when you started, you know, your career journey and it sounds like you started right in Detroit. How did you think about your career? Did you always know you were gonna go into entrepreneurship? And did you want to provide a little overview of some of the stops you’ve had along your path?

ANISHA ( 00:07:35): Yeah. I didn’t necessarily know. And it’s funny, right? We all look back at our paths and they look so perfectly crafted, but they’re never a straight line, right? I knew I wanted to be in, in, in the storytelling world. And I knew I wanted to do that in the digital and, and tech, you know, boom that we were seeing. And I, I really thought there was this amazing opportunity to story tell within the technology realm. And so I wanted to find myself in a news room that was building out their technology arm and was reporting on tech and probably producing in high tech as well. And so I found myself over at CBS N which is CBS News at the time was CBS news, new digital streaming network. And then after that, I found myself at NBC, launching their streaming network. And what that allowed me to do is, well, I had this amazing backing and kind of cachet of a huge newsroom like CBS and NBC. It gave me the ability to experiment, which was amazing. I was able to launch new series, explore new tech, you know, I, I launched C B S’s first Snapchat interview series which at the time, nobody was, you know, doing much on Snapchat and media in terms of really exploring journalistic routes. And so that was exciting at NBC, I launched a mixed reality interview series that was super fun. And so I was like interviewing people on a Google tilt brush set that I created. And so I was always able to find these pockets of innovative corners within these newsrooms. And in the back of my head, I was thinking, you know, I was meeting all these startup founders, I was meeting all these amazing people in tech. And I was thinking, you know, if I find a problem I care hard enough about and, and enough about I, I would really love to, to see if I could try my hand at being an entrepreneur myself. And then lo and behold, I found that problem and I started to chase it

TAI ( 00:9:13): great. And before we get into that, what, what do you wish people knew more about journalism reporting? Storytelling?

ANISHA ( 00:9:22): That’s a great question. You know, there’s a lot of, there’s a lot of chaos around news is the, is the thing that I will say both inside newsrooms and, and in the news that they create. And I think the one thing that I really always tell people is there are some incredibly talented, especially young journalists that are doing amazing work and, and despite what you think about the news cycles and the craziness of it all, they’re just, they’re people trying to do their jobs. And at the end of the day, you know, some of the, a lot of the critiques are valid. But I would say go find a journalist, talk to them about their job and, and you’ll hear that passion and the love that they have for the work that they do. Some of my best friends are still very much in that industry. And so, I’m still an optimist. I, I think we’re gonna figure out a lot of great stuff in the journalism and news room and, and maybe I’ll jump back into it one day. But, , just know that there’s a ton of great people doing a ton of great work, , in, in those newsrooms today.

TAI ( 00:10:16): So, tell us a bit more about Verbate’s mission, purpose, that burning desire to create something.

ANISHA ( 00:10:23): Yeah. really, it, it, it started in those newsrooms as I was building them from 0 to 1, I, I was involved from really the ground level, right? They were almost like startups within these big organizations. And I quickly learned that the hardest part of building any workplace is not the production and logistics side of things or the you know, administration on, on that front, but it’s the human side of things. It’s how are we thinking about keeping our people engaged? How are we thinking about making sure that they know that this is the best workplace for them? And, and the more I built teams, the more that I worked with people across the organization, I realized just how much of an intricate challenge that was. And so I, I really invested in, in what I knew best, which is those different identities, right? I thought we have all these different types of people. I really want them to feel like they can come to work, work and, and represent their full cells. And so, that naturally led me to a lot of work with employee communities, whether it was employee resource groups or mental health groups or just finding different ways to make sure that folks could do their best work and, and bring that full self to work with them. And so naturally, as I was doing that and I was building those programs when 2020 came around suddenly that work was front and center, right? We were all global and distributed and people were trying to figure out, what does a remote work world look like? Leaders were trying to figure out how do we make sure that people feel like they’ve seen and represented at work so that they don’t leave? Right? And so at the end of the day, my co-founder and I saw it from, from different, vastly different workplaces. I was in the corporate media world, he was in the financial tech world and we were both seeing the same phenomenon and, and we thought, you know, there has to be something that can be done, right? There has to be something that can be built to help, to help some of these problems. And so, you know, we did the, we did all of the research and discovery to validate our own, our own experiences, interviewed hundreds of people leaders and, and tech leaders and all sorts of company leaders and we found that there was a complete explosion in these employee communities but they had very little infrastructure, they were being run off of a million spreadsheets and Google Docs. And we thought, OK, well, that seems like somewhere that technology can help if we can build a software layer that helps them do their job a little bit easier and, and achieve the impact that they want. That seems like we’re moving in the right direction.

TAI ( 00:12:43): That’s Uber. Interesting. Thank you for sharing that. What type of companies do y’all work best with?

ANISHA ( 00:12:51): Yeah. So it’s interesting, right? I just mentioned that pretty much every company doubled down on these employee communities. And so for us, it’s really, it’s becoming a larger and larger pool but really any, any company that has say, you know, more than three employee resource groups or employee communities, increasingly they’re being called different things. Sometimes they’re called employee networks, sometimes they’re called BRGs – business resource groups. But really any company that has a few of them and is thinking, what does the 2.0 strategy of this look like? How can these communities be involved in maybe our onboarding strategy or recruiting or how do we track some of the success of them and make sure that they’re getting the support that they need and that they’re delivering, you know, at the end of the day as well, some sort of tangible impact on the, on the company itself. So, any company that’s thinking deeply about that is a company we work really well with. We work with all types of different companies across verticals and shape and size. As long as they’re thinking about employees in the sense of community within them.

TAI ( 00:13:47): Any company or community leaders that you’d like to give a shout out to.

ANISHA ( 00:13:52): Oh, so many  I always say my fellow founder, network is the thing that holds us together, holds me together. You know, being a founder is certainly not rosy all the time. And I’ve had some amazing founders help me along the way. Amy Sperling over at Compt. She’s built an amazing company. Also in the HR tech feature of workspace, Nick Gavronsky, Founder of Welcome who’s now over at BambooHR. Ansel Parikh over at Finch… all of these amazing founders who are also, you know, building and the employee experience and future of workspace doing amazing work. They have given me their time, their expertise and, and so much else along the way and, and I hope to keep paying it forward for other folks coming into the space as well.

TAI ( 00:14:34): You talk about kind of the founder path being a little rocky or maybe some choppy waters, you face anything you wish you knew when you began?

ANISHA ( 00:14:47): You know, it’s hard to say. I feel like I’m always, I’m a big silver lining person. So I’m like, you know what, I had to go through that to learn it. But I, I would say you just cannot start building that network early enough off of my, off of my previous point, right? I think there’s a propensity to try and feel like you have it all figured out from day one and especially in founder life, you know, you’re always putting on this face that everything is perfect and I have it all together and I figured it out, you want to put that best foot forward. But it’s ok to ask questions and ask for help and find the people you can lean on early, especially those fellow founders, they will do, they will give you so much grace and they’re gonna give you some help along the way. And so, I would say reach out, build that network and, and be honest when things are hard or when things aren’t working and you’ll be really pleasantly surprised at how many people will be willing to reach out and, and give some advice and, and guidance along the way.

TAI ( 00:15:37): What would you consider a success or a particular milestone over the next year for Verbate?

ANISHA ( 00:15:45): So we are, we are obviously a very community oriented company. We work with employee communities all day long and for us, we’re always thinking: how do we supercharge the sense of community in this space? So for example, the Program Managers of employee communities, they were the second fastest growing role being hired for in 2022. That’s the third fastest growing role being hired for in 2023, even amidst what is a lot of economic turmoil, right? Employee Experience Manager is the fifth fastest growing being hired for. And so these folks are everywhere. They’re doing amazing work. But the number one thing that we often hear from them is they feel lonely inside their own organizations, right? They feel like they are kind of, you know, one or two voices really doing the work. And so we’re really big on, let’s bring those folks together. We do monthly meetups, we have a newsletter and, and we try to build as much community for these community builders, which sounds obvious, but somebody needs to help them get together because they’re doing all this amazing work and, and there are not a lot of spaces for them to connect with each other. So for us being able to, you know, we have this amazing community of program managers, being able to grow that community, but then look for other spaces to say, hey, can we connect ERG leaders, can we connect different people in the space that are doing the work, connect them across company, across organization. For us, it’s an amazing opportunity to meet all these great companies, but also to create spaces for these community builders so that they can do their work and feel supported.

TAI ( 00:17:11): That’s fantastic. And with that, we’ll take a short beat for our sponsors and we’ll return to close out the show.

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TAI ( 00:18:05): Welcome back to the advice segment of our episode. What is one piece of advice for those looking for their next job trying to level up or beginning a new journey?

ANISHA ( 00:18:20): Yeah. I would say a couple of things and, and at the risk of sounding like a broken record, I would say, you know, find your people, right? If you have even an inkling that you might, like me, want to step into a completely different industry, right? Get into tech and you know that you have a couple of people that are really well entrenched in that space, go talk to them, share with them, network with them, ask them to introduce you to two more people in their world, right? And that snowball effect of your network growing. I’m sure you’ve, you’ve noticed the same thing in the spaces you’re in, you suddenly realize like, wow, these spaces aren’t that that big? It’s 300 people, maybe not 3000. And so, as early as you can start to meet the people that you want to be in the room with in your next step, that is a huge, huge advantage. And I have to say, ERGs are an amazing way to do that. Maybe poke around in your company and say, hey, I’m a parent or I’m part of our mental health group or I’m a woman of color. I’m gonna go see if there’s other people that I identify with or, or that are similar or maybe even different from me that I can learn from. But that network expansion is such a key part of that.

TAI ( 00:19:20): I, I heard you say be in the room and I just think about that Hamilton line, “I want to be in the room where it happens”. And it’s phenomenal just getting a seat at the table and helping others get that seat at the table. Are there any common denominators you’ve noticed in the most successful people you’ve met along your path? 

ANISHA ( 00:19:45): I think it’s that propensity to always want to learn. Right. And that’s something I’m, I’m always working on, right? It’s sometimes that tension with this feeling to always have it together as a founder, right? And feel like you have, you know, exactly the right step. But if you’re willing to, to look around the corner and say, I’m gonna ask one more question to this customer or to this person in front of me that I feel like I know everything about. That willingness to learn to be wrong, to always look around the corner is a huge unlock I think, especially as you progress through your career. And you realize that there’s probably something else that you can get better at, is a through line through all of the successful folks that I admire. 

TAI ( 00:20:24): As a founder I often say I, I heard this line, I love to parrot. It’s like you’re just staring at the abyss, chewing glass, getting donkey kicked in the stomach every day and it’s all about creating the relationships, the bonds that will keep you together through the chaos. But it’s also managing your mental health and your mental runway. How do you manage your mental health and runway?

ANISHA ( 00:20:53): Yeah, this is such an important question right now. It’s something I’m constantly working on is the first thing I’ll caveat at that statement because it’s, it’s a work in progress for, for everybody, but for me as well. And, there’s a few things that I can get really specific on that I do. One, it’s, it sounds simple but I take a walk every morning with my co-founder. That’s how we start our day. And that was a huge unlock for us. Instead of getting right into emails and right into screens and some fire that you have to put out, you know, just getting up, picking up your head, getting some fresh air. We call it our vision walks, and you talk about the big things that get you excited, it just rewires your brain for the whole day. So that’s one thing that we always do. We always take walks. I’m constantly writing, I write a ton back to my, you know, background in journalism and, and love for writing. I just kind of index all the things that are going on and that’s my way of processing, you know, what’s going on, taking stock of what’s going on in my head and what could be better and what I can do for my mental health. And so those are two things I always, always make sure I do every day. And then leaning on my support system, those three people and, and there some amazing friends that I have and founders, making sure that they know how I’m doing and, and coaching them through asking questions that I need them to ask is something I’ve been trying on as well. You know, telling them I need you to hold me accountable, asking me if I took my walk today. Sometimes the people that you love just need you to kind of help them along how to help you.

TAI ( 00:22:16): There’s definitely a pattern of how many of our guests have mentioned. Walking. Walking is definitely one of my favorite hobbies or shinrin-yoku forest bathing, walking within greenery or walking on trails. In addition to building companies, cultures and communities, what else do you enjoy? You mentioned walking and exercise is one. 

ANISHA ( 00:22:38): Yeah, big, big football fan, not necessarily American football, but soccer. I grew up playing a lot of soccer and I still watch quite a bit of soccer when I can with my dad. That’s a big hobby of mine that I’d love to get more into. And, writing is a big aspiration of mine. I want to make sure that I keep doing that as well and just think it’s a wonderful way to just index what’s going on around you.

TAI ( 00:23:00): What wave will you and Verbate charge next? What are you most excited about on the horizon?

ANISHA ( 00:23:07): Yeah. It has to be those community efforts. We are on the precipice of, I’ll give you a little preview, but we’re launching a, we’re launching a community for ERG leads next week. And so really thinking deeply about how to connect more people in this space, I think there’s a one plus one equals three effect when you can put two or three or 20 people in the same room. And so for us, it’s continuing to supercharge that, that community impact that we have across the space. And then of course, just, you know, making a name for ourselves as we go and do that and making sure that people know that they can find us whenever they want to think about employee communities. It’s only gonna get more important as we chart a path forward for the future of work.

TAI ( 00:23:45): I love that. That sounds like a very exciting initiative. It would certainly fill some gaps in the market. That is wonderful to hear. We’ll go right into the lightning round, thunder lightning round if you’re ready. My favorite pick me up is Outrigger Cold Brew from the islands of Hawaii. Of course, I’m biased. Do you have a favorite pick me up?

ANISHA ( 00:24:07): I think this is probably going back to my British roots. I drink a lot of tea. Earl Gray Tea is usually my 2 or 3pm kick. 

TAI ( 00:24:14): Do you have a favorite local restaurant?

ANISHA ( 00:24:18): Hm. This is a hard one. My co-founder and I were just talking about this. I have to go with Albadawi, which is an amazing restaurant here in our neighborhood on Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn. There’s some incredible, incredible food around here. That and Yemen Cafe are two classics in the area.

TAI ( 00:24:34): I will make sure to hit those up next time. I’m in town. That sounds awesome. Any other favorite hobbies you haven’t already mentioned?

ANISHA ( 00:24:43): Mm, I think I mentioned them all but  I’ll just say, you know, watching soccer again.

TAI ( 00:24:52): You name checked your favorite sports team. Any favorite musicals or shows?

ANISHA ( 00:24:57): Hmm. Favorite show would probably be Insecure. Issa is a genius. I think that she’s just so much fun and I can’t wait to see what she does next.

TAI ( 00:25:08): Best vacation spot.

ANISHA ( 00:25:11): Oh, we’re going to Greece pretty soon and I’m very excited about that. I’ve always loved Greece. I just think it’s such a beautiful, beautiful place. And, my co-founder’s family is from there as well.

TAI ( 00:25:23): Whereabouts in Greece?

ANISHA ( 00:25:25): So he’s Armenian and one side of his family is Greek. And so we are going to Athens; his cousin’s getting married there. So that will be a lot of fun.

TAI ( 00:25:35): Wow. We absolutely loved Athens. It was fantastic. 

ANISHA ( 00:25:41): I haven’t been back in a while. I’m so excited. It’s so much fun visiting these places. Like I, I’ve been since when I was younger and it’s always different when you go, when you’re a little bit older, you see something different every time. 

TAI ( 00:25:49): Oh definitely. It reminds me of the line, no man can step in the same river twice for the, for the man is not the same and neither is the river, or something like that. I just love that. I love that. Dream concert?

ANISHA ( 00:26:05): Mm. I thought a lot about this one. I really struggled with this. Perhaps I should, I, I don’t know if this falls under her hobbies but I’m a huge hip hop fan. I listen to a ton of hip hop. So I’d have to go with either like an impossible classic hip hop artist that I obviously can’t see like Tupac or a Biggie. Or it’s an artist that’s still with us today. Nicki Minaj probably, I just think she’s, you know, she’s the OG and, and she’s great and she’s Trinidadian and I’m Trinidadian. And so I would love to see her in concert.

TAI ( 00:26:35): I think, also a huge hip hop fan, I would say mine would be like Biggie and Taylor Swift in one concert. 

ANISHA ( 00:26:43) Just see what happens, throw them together. 

TAI ( 00:26:47) Oh, dog or cat?

ANISHA ( 00:26:49): A dog, big dog lover. I have two Bernedoodles. They are adorable. I will talk your ear off about them any time.

TAI ( 00:26:57): And I got this question from Timothy Ferris. But it’s basically, if you could put any advice on a billboard across the country, billboards outside of the school, billboards outside the University of Michigan, what would, what would you put?

ANISHA ( 00:27:11): Yeah, I’m trying to think of a concise way to put it, but it’s that advice I’ve been given all, all this podcast, which is, you know, get out there and meet two new people. Do your best to meet those two new people, you know, every day, every week and, and just you’ll be shocked by what you learn and ask them some good questions. Yeah, I always say my love language is a really great hard question. That’s what the journalist in me is like, ask me a great question and it shows such a profound understanding of who’s in front of you. So maybe ask good questions.

TAI ( 00:27:39): Yeah. Yeah, I’m a big believer. Your network is your net worth. But the good questions, the deeper questions, the second level, third level questions, getting to that. I think that’s fantastic. Any other life models or slogans?

ANISHA ( 00:27:55): Yeah. The one that I always do, especially when I get into a tough time, is take stock and move forward. Taking a moment to be thankful for what you have, what you’ve accomplished. What, what is working, right? And, then taking one step forward is kind of my mantra that I always go back to when stuff feels a little bit paralyzing. There’s just too much going on, take stock, move forward.

TAI ( 00:28:17): That’s great. What’s next on your bucket list?

ANISHA ( 00:28:23): Hmm, you know, this one’s, this one’s a little bit personal, a little bit professional, but I really do want to get back to writing. It’s just been such a passion of mine. It’s something that I do personally, obviously I’ve done it professionally. But I want to set aside some time and, and really just reflect on how much we’ve all been through these past few years. I think it’s so important to sit down and index some of it, write it down. Look back at it. Keep that record for yourself. I think we’re all gonna look back and wish that we had a higher fidelity record of our lives through this crazy time.

TAI ( 00:28:49): And any other parting words before we close out the show? 

ANISHA ( 00:28:57): I think we covered it all. I would just say, you know, for anybody that is thinking about taking that step into entrepreneurship or, or listening to these podcasts, I used to listen to all these podcasts when I was thinking about it and, and think how can I, how can I get into this? Like, just take that first step. It’s, it’s always, you know, intimidating. But once you rip that band aid off, you’ll, you’ll figure it out from there.

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About the Charge the Wave Podcast

Footnote 4 presents its Charge the Wave podcast – focused on entrepreneurs, executives, and icons who are assiduously building companies, cultures, and communities.

Charge the Wave aims to uncover the personal stories and anecdotes from inspiring builders and trailblazers in their respective professions and dig into the formative moments, hard-fought lessons, and circuitous voyages that are woven into the fabric of the everyday, interesting journeys of our fellow wayfarers.

Charge the Wave is focused on the industrious pioneers who are navigating the choppy waters of the unknown, rising and grinding everyday to face the endless uphill climb.

Charge the Wave is singularly focused on:

Inspiring entrepreneurs — who are building startups, battling the unstable seas to discover product-market fit, and aiming to launch innovative products and services to successfully cross the chasm into successful commercialization.

Influential executives — who’ve had winding career paths, weathered the storms and wreckages, and built resilient and high-performing crews and organizations.

Iconic individuals — who are becoming authors of their destinies and master navigators by wayfinding, sidewinding, wandering, and perfecting their craft, charting new courses to make an indelible mark in the world.

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Footnote 4 has had a front-row seat to many recent successes in the last several years, both advising and consulting for incredible individuals and teams who have risen above their stations, by building high-performance crews and cultures — and carving their own paths throughout various industries along the way. Footnote 4 dedicates Charge the Wave to the late Duke Kahanamoku (1890-1968), the greatest waterman, pioneer, and American icon of our time.

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